AT ITS JULY 29, 2022 MEETING, THE DESERT PRINCESS HOA BOARD OF DIRECTORS
APPROVED (BY A 5-2 VOTE) THE FINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 WHICH BEGINS ON OCTOBER 1, 2022. THE APPROVED BUDGET CALLS FOR AN INCREASE IN THE MONTHLY ASSESSMENT OF $38 FOR EACH DP UNIT, RESULTING IN A TOTAL MONTHLY ASSESSMENT OF $748. THE TOTAL INCREASE AMOUNTS TO $456 ANNUALLY FOR EACH UNIT OR A TOTAL OF $549,936 FOR THE 1206 UNITS IN DP. MEANWHILE THE BOARD TREASURER IS PROJECTING A SURPLUS OF $800,000 TO $900,000 IN OPERATING FUNDS AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR (SEPTEMBER 30, 2022). -WHY IS THE BOARD HOLDING BACK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AS “PLAY MONEY” INSTEAD OF USING THE SURPLUS TO OFFSET SOME OR ALL OF THE $38 PER MONTH INCREASE? -WHY WAS THE $15 MILLION BUDGET APPROVED ON THE BASIS OF THE TREASURER’S ORAL RECOMMENDATION WITH NO FINAL PROPOSED DOCUMENT AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW BY BOARD MEMBERS PRIOR TO THE VOTE? -IS THE REAL PURPOSE OF WITHHOLDING THE $800,000-$900,000 SURPLUS TO FINANCE THE BOARD’S SPECIAL “VANITY” PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET? THE HOA IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE BUDGET IN THE ANNUAL MAILING IN AUGUST. EACH HOMEOWNER SHOULD REQUEST A COMPLETE COPY OF THE BUDGET FROM THE HOA TO DETERMINE WHERE YOUR MONEY IS ACTUALLY GOING. AS A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. THE BLOG WOULD YOUR THOUGHTS
72 Comments
Roy's Boy
8/3/2022 08:03:33 am
It’s “auction time” at the Desert Princess AGAIN!
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Caroline M
8/3/2022 05:03:04 pm
Forget the annual flowers and stick with the overseeding. You get more bang for your buck. Most of those flowers are dead in a week.
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Maggie Hood
8/4/2022 10:38:28 pm
Yeah- approving a huge increase WITHOUT EVEN
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James Pinta
7/20/2023 02:18:13 pm
The proposed increase in the Homeowners Association dues is unreasonable and very much out of keeping with historical trends and, in fact, with possible correlation of trends in general inflation. Historical monthly dues and yearly increases over the past seven (7) years are as follows:
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David
8/3/2022 08:38:20 am
This is uncalled for!!!! Everyone is struggling with inflation. Food.Gas . HOA. I bet their sitting pretty nice on our dime. STOP ✋️
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Dr. Donna Dudley
8/3/2022 08:44:12 am
Unbelievable! How can assessments continue to increase? At some point, the increases should be projected to address costs over a 3-5 year period. What about budget projections and planning?. The continued rise in HOA costs is unacceptable.
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Michel
8/3/2022 08:45:23 am
Why ? Hello people inflation , gas , food, interest inflation. Are they trying to fail us? Price us so high that everyone has to leave? WHY ? I bet a million dollars their sitting pretty with our money? Managementtrust.com
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Marianne Thomas
8/3/2022 08:49:22 am
It never ends.
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Tom Rosa
8/3/2022 09:34:44 am
Wash Rinse Repeat This has been my mantra regarding the Management Trust and our insubordinate BOD. A Fiduciary is supposed to protect the interest of others money. We elect our board and give them our trust only to be dictated to like children. Our BOD approved a new budget which increases the HOA fee by $38. Once again no consideration of ways to cut expenses to absorb this increase. NO NO the Management Trust advises this do nothing board to just pass it along. They increased the contract to O'Connell by $100K and yet the place has never looked shabbier. So we don't evaluate the performance of our vendors we just rubber stamp an increase because it's the path of least resistance. Look we have been on this property for 20+ years so my comments are informed. Yet violations are being handed out like circus tickets. Compliant dues paying homeowners are being singled out for minor infractions. (garage door painting) I think we need a community meeting to discuss what's going on. This place is taking a turn for the worst. Sadly we ALL just sit back and take it. NO MORE.
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Michelle Simson
8/3/2022 11:19:47 am
Well said Tony. To recap, the two Board members who even saw the budget before the forced vote on Friday were the President who, less than a year ago, was the subject of a sole recall ballot by the community AND a Treasurer who was elected to a THIRD term, in violation of the spirit of the Desert Princess CC&Rs.
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CB
8/3/2022 11:58:30 am
Agree!!!! A community meeting is needed. I think perhaps, too many people do not pay attention to what is going on or they believe the....hmmmmm...alternative facts (or lack of any information) that is provided. A few things come to mind for me: they are still mad that their $7 million palm tree initiative that was voted down handily, and the golf course and restaurant shortfall that they seem to be ok with our HOA dues funding (as they have done NOTHING to fix that broken mess). But the real question is WHY? Why would you want the golf course and the restaurant to lose money every year? It is certainly not because it CAN'T be fixed, so it must be because they WON'T fix it and if they WON'T fix it, I am back to WHY THE HECK NOT?????? P.S. input appreciated - these are not rherotical questions.
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Mary Maloney
8/4/2022 11:36:34 am
CB, they don't want to fix the golf course and the restaurant mess because the "inner club" wants this to operate as a private club at the expense of the homeowners, period. Otherwise they would be fixing our structure to change our HOA budgets so people can actually get loans in here. THEY want to keep their locked in tee times, doubles at the price of singles at the bar, all at the expense of the homeowners and the HOA dues. This is not about business and running an actual for profit business, they don't want "outsiders", the public, taking their tee times or crowding their BROWN restaurant. THEY like it just as it is. So charge every homeowner more to keep the status quo.
Lynn
8/3/2022 09:38:31 am
Why is an annual budget not approved by the owners ?? It's our money...!! As an observation, in Canada, the Property Management Companies or, if not applicable, the Council (Board) is obligated to send out an annual budget 30 days before the Annual General Meeting for a review by the owners and then it is voted on at the meeting by ALL owners (in person, via proxy, or ZOOM). The budget has to be approved by 50%+1 and if it doesn't pass, the Council (Board) has to go back to the drawing board and re-do the budget based on the owners' input which is to be submitted at a new AGM within 30 days. This process allows ALL owners the right to vote on what our money is being used for.....and its certainly not left at the discretion of 7 Council (Board) members. Perhaps, this fool-proof practice is something we all should be considering for the Desert Princess Annual General Meetings. We can submit a resolution to change the
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Gail Wilson
8/3/2022 09:40:55 am
I was at the monthly open HOA and Country Club meetings on Friday, July 29th. This increase is a done deal...there will be no opportunity for homeowners to review it before the board votes on it. The bote happened last Friday in the open HOA meeting. The dues increase was originally proposed to be a $41 increase but the board settled on $38. They did not have a copy of the final budget in the 7 board members' meeting packages so no review was able to be done by any board member voting. They had to take the treasurer's, Russ Holowachuk's, word on what was included and the math involved in a $15M budget that impacts us all without seeing a tangible copy of the final budget on which they were all voting. (Of course, we homeowners are not permitted to see the budget until after it has been accepted and voted on by the board.)
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Dianne Arevalo
8/3/2022 03:58:18 pm
It sounds exactly like, "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it". And the performance level is exactly the same also, as I'm sure the approval rating is likewise. Nothing for the board to boast about.
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Donna
8/3/2022 09:44:16 am
This is so frustrating! Constantly hearing that the board is doing sneaky things and not considering how much folks are struggling and the financial future for the US is bleak right now. We just had an increase of monthly dues…. How much more can the squeeze out of us. Very disappointing.
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Ted
8/3/2022 10:02:08 am
You elect morons.
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Lynn
8/3/2022 05:20:31 pm
We certainly DID NOT vote for these morons but that's democracy at its finest - the few of us are out-numbered by the morons who think the Board works for them. Seriously, the Board is NOT working for you as evidenced by the continual spending and annual increases we are all powerless to prevent. We need a Community COMMITTEE Meeting to ensure our voices are heard and this Committee should have access to all monthly financial statements for review and input to the Board about many dissatisfactions which are being expressed by the majority. The results of the recent vote regarding the $15 MILLION expense for landscaping upgrades should give the Board an indication that owners are NOT happy with their absurd spending projects. Who, in their right mind, spends $8 million on solar panels for parking at the clubhouse.....is that for the good of all - I think not !! We are a community, not a dictatorship.
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Dolores
8/3/2022 10:32:58 am
Why would they give the landscaping company a raise? Often the work performed is done halfway and you have to call them to return, otherwise the job is poorly done. In the villa section, there is no grass in most yards and very few plants, at least in my yard, I personally feel I’m overpaying for the little I receive for my HOA dues. Unless more owners complain, the HOA will gradually take away more of the rights we have in determining some of the costs we incur living here at Desert Princess. Even though we as members have voted for the board members to represent us in these decisions, we need to evaluate their actions and form a committee to review, if what they do financially is in the best interest of our community as a whole. In these inflationary times, maybe we need to get more bids from individuals providing services instead of just renewing contracts.
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Michelle
8/4/2022 04:04:41 pm
Dolores, a 5% raise to a company that massacred my shrubs that of course now rest in peace, but unbelievably ALSO took their whipper-snippers to an artificial planter on my patio defies reason. Yes, the HOA paid to replace my faux plant, but it plays to the lack of judgment Management Trust exhibits in their contract hires for our community..
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Mike
8/3/2022 10:59:01 am
Vote stupid you get stupid
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Mary Maloney
8/3/2022 11:01:59 am
We are on a slippery slope to becoming the Desperate Princess once again. This is the 6th increase in the last 5 years. Agents in the valley don't even want to "touch the Desert Princess" we are quickly becoming a negative for buyers with our "cash only" condos and high HOA when our facilities as Gail said look like an assisted living facility. We thought the Desert Princess was on the rise when we purchased in 2017 and I have brought many clients to the resort and now I have clients that "just want out" due to the negligence of this BOD. You vote them in, don't complain.
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Tony
8/3/2022 11:02:12 am
Very disappointing. They should hold the existing fees for one year and manage to that budget. Then we can evaluate the impact. I am very concerned about the $1.6 million capital plan with no mention of what it involves.
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Gracie Roy
8/3/2022 11:16:05 am
So what do we do about this? How do the masses control the few?
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Michelle Dupar
8/3/2022 11:19:48 am
Really? Another increase? The 8th one since 2017. This is ludicrous! The place is not falling apart. What do you need more money for?
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Berns
8/3/2022 11:26:08 am
My feeling is that the board did not get their way when we failed to pass the loan option to beautify the grounds. I said at the time that there would be payback if we did not pass their loan project of $5 million. So what, we were going to pay $35 a month more for the loan, and now another $38 for HOA expenditures. There’s something rotten in Denmark!
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Leslie
8/3/2022 01:44:54 pm
We knew, without doubt, there would be retribution to the owners, for voting down the Board sanctioned $5M borrowed money "plant swap",but this is beyond the pale.. The $900,000.00 cash surplus is the Board's personal savings account, funded by OUR dues to carry out what the homeowners resoundingly voted down.
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Kim
8/3/2022 02:00:07 pm
We only have ourselves to blame. The definition of STUPID is electing " golf country clubbers* to our Board who care more about their of course than the interests of entire community and expecting a different outcome.
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Mr.change
8/4/2022 11:29:48 pm
What do you me golf course they spent all that time and money and still looks like crap, now they want to remove all the trees
David
8/3/2022 03:05:42 pm
Let the truth be told. We are a resort community. That is why Fannie Mae & Freddie will NOT GIVE A LOAN. Bottom line they want full time residents out so this can become a DESERT PRINCESS RESORT.
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Mary Maloney
8/5/2022 11:35:32 am
To the contrary David, in my opinion, this BOD want short term rentals and ALL rentals out based on their continued squeezing of the guidelines lead by Terri Swartz. NO new blood on committees, all the same little "inner circle". They want their private club amenities at the cost of residents. If that's what they want there are PLENTY of places to live in the valley with over $1200 a month dues so no "outsiders" come in. We need guests to come here and spend their money at our facilities to keep our HOA down. YES, we are built as a resort and that is NOT going away. So until those that want to live in a private community come to grips with that and do what is necessary to make this a thriving resort community, we will continue to face rising HOA fees to pay for their vanity projects.
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Judge
8/3/2022 03:09:17 pm
They will make a lot more money from holiday residence. " Resort " not Desert Princess country club. The hotel is also a way for the managementtrust.com to increase revenue.
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Terry
8/3/2022 04:38:52 pm
The $38 per month increase won't break us, but the stupidity, ignorance, lack of respect, and downright unlawful behavior by our "leadership" is just too much to put up with. Board of director's come and go but this latest board is the worst we have seen in the ten years we have been here. They can't stop spending our money on things that have a zero per cent return on investment, such as the $500,00 for the fitness center that will return nothing on a expenditure of half a million dollars. Our money is going down a black hole to the tune of almost half a million dollars a year towards an ever failing restaurant. The lack of mortages at DP is a direct result of the BOD and Management Trust ignoring the issue and warnings until we now no longer have mortages. This will destroy the home market here at DP over time.
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Randy
8/3/2022 07:52:25 pm
As a homeowner who voted for most of the people on the current board, I am furious, livid and fuming on what I saw at the last board meeting. Directors Martin Backstrom and Bill Bergstrom both tried to have the HOA dues decreased from $38. Asking to put $100K in the reserves so our fees would be less. Thank you both for your efforts.
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CB
8/4/2022 02:31:15 pm
And we will be in for more of the same come February (I believe) when autocrat Webb's term comes to an end and they finagle a way to have Terry "I am afraid for my life" Swartz takes his place. A community meeting is imperative. Our fees climb closer and closer to $1,000 a month as we sit on the DO NOT LEND list, fruit trees disappear, $500K for the gym "upgrade" (as Terry mentioned, brings in $0 so no ROI - return on investment), the black holes AKA golf course and restaurant that our fees fund...the recall did not work and while it beats me why, I think people see things a bit clearer now...COMMUNITY MEETING, LEGAL REPRESENTATION & RECALL - all in order (IMHO). And Mgmt Trust...overpaid and underworked....
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Mary Maloney
8/5/2022 11:36:52 am
It all seriously makes me want to sell and get the hell of DP!
A Proud DP Resident
8/6/2022 08:35:10 am
How about Peter Webb and his cronies on the Board and his cronies on all the committees sell and get the hell out of Desert Princess. Why should we all have to leave just because of their perpetual insanity and incompetence?
Realist
8/3/2022 08:09:15 pm
The continuing insanity displayed by the Board is proof positive that all those Board members who voted for this dues increase must be recalled and replaced
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ROY'S BOY
8/3/2022 08:25:09 pm
A cursory search of the minutes and summaries of the recent Desert Princess Board of Directors meetings finds no documentation of any vote authorizing the Tree Management Program expenditure. A bid, yes, but no approval. And as we are all witnessing, over 200 trees both ornamental and citrus are being removed on a daily basis. How much more of this cavalier leadership do you want to put up with?
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Leslie
8/4/2022 03:14:09 am
Are you kidding me???? No formal vote on the Tree Management expenditure?? Looks like the committees are taking over in how our money gets spent. First the CDAC tried beyond all reason to have us go into millions of dollars of debt for plants and now the tree management committee is spending God knows how much of our money removing not only dead ones but our lovely citrus trees as well with no formal vote recorded by the Board. Good to know!!! Who needs a Board??
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Caroline M
8/4/2022 09:54:02 am
Not only the lovely citrus but also some Palo Verde and other healthy trees. A beautiful Palo Verde in the Arroyos was removed and that was not old or diseased. And as I understand, they are removing and then will think about what to put in place when they see what it looks like with all the trees gone.
Judge
8/4/2022 07:56:13 am
We have had enough of Mangement TRUST. Do you think we could find a realtor to sell our home?
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Mary Maloney
8/4/2022 11:41:45 am
Judge, as a Realtor/owner at the DP, if you own a villa, there is one lender I know of that can still get a loan done on a villa, but if you own a condo, it MUST be a cash buyer. I have even tried an AirBNB lender I have and no go after looking at our HOA budget. THAT should tell you something that a hard money lender isn't even willing to touch us.......
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Layla
8/4/2022 07:12:26 pm
The dues have gone up almost 100 bucks in a two year period. It’s ridiculous. We are not paying what we signed up for, and it’s obviously not a good investment, and NO investment in the property for each personal owner.
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Summer
8/4/2022 10:42:35 pm
CB, I 100% agree with everything you said- this board is not representing us homeowners properly at all and we as homeowners need to meet up to discuss how best to approach this unfortunate situation we are all facing. The autocratic way of dictating to us here has to stop.
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Mr.change
8/5/2022 08:19:39 am
After reading these comments I can see theres one thing WE can ALL agree on is 3 out of 5 of these members need to go. We also should look into legal actions, we would have to come together to fund a lawyer. Also there is NO reason D.P. should be loosing money we just need to do the exact opposite of what were doing now.
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CB
8/5/2022 04:11:33 pm
So...let's get the community meeting moving forward. Anyone know how we do that?? And Mr. Change. Summer and Mary...agree with y'all flat out!!
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Terry
8/5/2022 03:25:35 pm
After reading the comments on this blog, I am encouraged that many DP homeowners are fully aware of the careless, shoddy, and even unlawful manner our HOA board is mis-managing our affairs, together with the fact that the Management Trust is in way over their heads and grossly overpaid.
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Diane
8/6/2022 07:10:08 am
Mr. Change, there are 7 board members. Four of them need to go.
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Tom Rosa
8/6/2022 08:13:37 am
Hello all. I am glad to see my call for a homeowner meeting has traction. I would like to clarify a few things, we live in a Country club community, Part of the experience is amenities. The golf course / restaurant / gym / spa are all parts of the experience. As a long time owner, I have been preaching forever that a net zero approach is the bare minimum for all of those listed above. The value of ALL of our homes is based on the quality and beauty of the golf course. Lets face it that's why developers build the golf course first in a new community. AS it relates to the restaurant, a smart group of people would evaluate the daily break even average cost of operation and once the level falls below that the restaurant should be CLOSED until it can support itself. That is what restaurants in a seasonal market do every year. Or since I suppose most paying golfers are here Fri Sat Sun. Perhaps do that. The general point I'm making is we need smart people to do business evaluation of operations. The golf course must be maintained it benefits us all. The gym and spa are old and tired. I suspect I could develop a plan to refresh the gym for less than $500K. But again, it's an amenity available to us all.
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Michelle
8/6/2022 11:44:53 am
Tony, I agree with a great deal of your commentary. The stupidity of this situation lies in OUR continuing to blindly accept mediocre business acumen in our leadership and the ability to mobilize the community in sufficient numbers to rectify serious malfeasance by the Board. Case in point....roughly 50% of our owners even bothered to cast a ballot to recall Webb several months ago. Many concerned owners initiated the recall only to see their effort defeated by owner apathy.
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Michel
8/7/2022 03:12:38 pm
Tom, Do you really think that attending these so called meetings are really really going to help? I have been here for 18yrs attending every meeting until Trusted Mangement Co . After a few of those I knew we were going to have uncontrollable issues. Why are YOU PEOPLE so afraid to step up and address this uncontrollable issue? I'm NOT !!!
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Realist
8/6/2022 11:14:32 am
To Tom Rosa,
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Judge
8/7/2022 03:13:42 pm
We are in!
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Kim
8/7/2022 04:13:17 pm
I'm not in. Rule by blog concensus is rather idiotic, don't you think? This blog has been an invaluable tool that enables communication within our community, filling a void initiated by a Board governed by a dictatorial President, who endorses secretive community committee deliberations.
Realist
8/7/2022 05:28:14 pm
Kim, you agree that "This blog has been an invaluable tool that enables communication within our community,"
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Tom Rosa
8/8/2022 08:34:47 am
Ok lets not eat our own. My idea was to assemble a group of like-minded homeowners and have a meeting with the board. Not the HOA meeting. As far as running for the Board, I am still working and don't have the time. But like everyone, I do find time to bitch and moan on this forum. I do not have a copy of the CC&R's but I'm sure others here do. Can someone research the language of the "fiduciary responsibility" of a board member? I assume its covered somewhere in there. Anyone here who knows me, knows I am happy to go to war with the HOA. Provided with the information, I am happy to stir the pot.
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Realist
8/8/2022 10:27:04 am
Tom, I have included the link and the text for your convenience. This relates to the Davis Sterling act which is the controlling act for our Board and all things HOA related in California.
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Bill
8/8/2022 12:30:22 pm
Regarding the broad issue of the trees, a narrow scope concern leads to a simple question from me; how in the world would the thought of getting rid of all the fruit trees even enter ones thought process!? And even if the thought did enter for more than a minute, would the person say this to someone else without total and shameful embarrassment? And then, to be suggested to this community, this is total lunacy. So, ok they backed out after coming to their senses, but still the justification of any number of fruit tress still needs some basis. The only possible legitimate reason from the list would be a huge fruit tree dropping fruit on a roof. Other than that, maybe consider trimming, or adding rat traps? There are other reasons for rats too and not our beloved fruit trees. I am very fortunate to have a Ruby Red Grapefruit tree on the side of my Villa. I have a juicer and love to eat and make juice with what it produces. Over my dead body will someone chop that down. I question the experts’ credibility who are on the TMC and behind this. The life expectancy of a fruit tree is 50 years, and even if it continues to produce fruit at that age do you still kill it?
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Michelle
8/8/2022 02:33:49 pm
What I believe we have here is yet again another communications failure by this Board. It is apparent that they have failed to differentiate communication with dictatorial and punitive notices to owners. This Board is perhaps it's own worst enemy in their tone-deaf governance of our community. They oversee our affairs by lurching from one crisis to another, almost entirely a result of their own making.
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CB
8/15/2022 09:00:30 am
Seems to be one thing after another.
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Michel
8/9/2022 07:26:07 am
Yeah ,now we're going in the right direction.
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Lindsay
8/9/2022 07:27:41 am
Did everyone read about Fannie & Freddie?
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Judge
8/12/2022 01:42:02 pm
No body around here?
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Lynn
8/22/2022 05:04:42 pm
As much as the tree removal project is a very contentious issue, I have to admit the photos being distributed regularly of the trees being removed certainly proves there are many rotting, damaged, and dangerous trees on the property. Those trees definitely needed immediate attention and removal. I believe once the necessary trees are removed, it will provide us all with a more attractive landscape, as well as ensure safety issues, and limit repair issues to the buildings.
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Malcolm R
8/25/2022 09:16:38 am
These trees should have been removed years ago as part of the routine landscaping maintenance. It is just another example of poor performance by our overpaid Management.
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Mr.Change
8/22/2022 06:08:44 pm
PEOPLE beware we can all say we will elect new board members. But i can guarantee you that Peter and the other board member that has termed out will not leave. We need to be ready for some shady stuff they will pull. Lets look at the CCRs get a lawyer and be ready to fight. I guarantee you this crap there pulling is NOT legal
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David
8/24/2022 09:53:50 am
Yes indeed we need to pull together ?
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Mr. Change
9/8/2022 06:49:19 am
People lets pull together, this president is acting as dictator. We can go through the CCRs as there is governing rules they have broken. If we need to get a lawyer so be it. THEY are Destroying this once Beautiful place.
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Lindsay
9/8/2022 10:04:22 am
YES! What, when , how are we going to stop this harassment? Anyone? Anything we can do?
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Michel
9/16/2022 10:10:50 am
We're did everyone go? Are you not concerned with our future?
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